Moving Forward

Swop ISO road uni

The team is now 4-7 in B1G play. Yet, after its most recent game the head coach claimed “the one thing that’s happening now is that guys are trusting each other more, they’re trusting the system”. One of the starters chimed in with this postgame observation “We’re different from last year’s team”. By now you probably figured out this is not your Northwestern Wildcats. The coach is John Groce and the team is the ‘Cats archrival, Illinois. Yes, the Illini and Northwestern are tied with identical 4-7 conference records after NU lost to Iowa with a depleted squad and the Illini capped off a week that included upsetting #1 Indiana at home and knocking off a ranked Minnesota team at the Barn last night.

Welcome to the topsy-turvy world of B1G play. Northwestern basketball is downright depressing right now. A blow to the head of starting center, Alex Olah, and a knee injury to starting forward, Jared Swopshire, resulted in both guys missing most of the second half of play in the 71-57 loss at Iowa on Saturday afternoon. Bench strength, once the projected difference maker of this year’s team, is now exposed as fans find themselves wondering if somehow assistant coaches like Joe Kennedy and Craig Moore might somehow have eligibility to suit up, perhaps out of some unknown rule of empathy from the NCAA.
Northwestern will likely be without four projected starters from the outset of the season (Alex Olah, Jared Swopshire, Drew Crawford, JerShon Cobb) when they venture to a personal house of horrors, Ohio State, on Valentine’s night, this Thursday. When you add in bench players Chier Ajou and Sanjay Lumpkin are redshirting due to injury and fan favorite preferred walk-on Aaron Liberman is also redshirting, you get the sense the IM courts are buzzing with thoughts about guys getting called “up” to play for Carmody.

Even with everyone on this squad either healthy or eligible, the talent factor is one that certainly is not an upper tier B1G level. To Carmody’s credit, from the last Iowa embarrassment at home to this Iowa road loss, he had found a way to wring every ounce of upside out of this team. Of course, non-apologists will cite the fact that injuries happen and when they do, depth of talent gets either rewarded or exposed. This Northwestern squad, if fully healthy, is at best a bubble team. We lack consistency in the post. We’re poor defenders in transition and we become one dimensional God forbid someone play any type of zone.

Guys like David Sobolewski and Reggie Hearn will earn mention for anyone’s “All-Heart” teams. Yet, watching Fran McCaffery’s team dismantle us on Saturday (after the stated injuries) for the season sweep simply highlighted yet another program that was down on hard times, that has since passed us in the trending up category. Remember how weak that program was under Todd Lickliter? Don’t look know, but McCaffery is about to become .500 as a coach at Iowa in year three, and his bigs are good. Meanwhile, just when you thought the Illini were bottoming out they win back-to-back huge games over ranked opponents and are tied with us in conference play (as is Iowa), yet the talk about Groce’s team is legitimately turning to NCAA Tournament talk.

The  contrast between the trio of 4-7 teams in conference is just too striking. Wildcat fans are depressed. Iowa fans feel as if the basketball program tied has turned, despite several heartbreaking last second losses to upper tier B1G teams (Indiana, Michigan State, Wisconsin), while Illini fans feel like that team they had in December is back and poised for a stretch run to get them back to March Madness. Yes, that same Illini team we absolutely throttled a month ago.

With no Swopshire and no Olah, even the most optimistic fan would give NU little chance on Thursday. Thoughts of crafty massacre-themed headlines on Valentine’s Day are already likely percolating among Buckeyes’ media. Readers seem to be simply heartbroken by NU basketball, and while there is no doubt a “woe-is-us” crutch going on among the fan base, it’s simply overwhelming when you look at the string of bad luck we’ve had injury-wise this year. Whether it is karma or coincidence, it is really hard to have your heart in this program right now. Many of us are too distracted by shoes dropping from the sky wondering who can make it stop.

More than 20 years of rooting for this program can do that to you. It’ll suck the life out of you. Then you realize how powerless you are as a fan to do much about it. It’s that negative attitude that needs adjusting and we need a jolt from someone to do it. The “Expect Victory” mentality that Barnett instilled within the football program and the Wildcat fan base is so sorely needed. I’ve somehow become emotionless watching basketball games as I realize my age and experience are starting to get the most of my seemingly relentless optimism that maybe, just maybe, this is the game that turns the tide to get us to basketball’s promised land. I find myself eyeing the schedule and thinking by this time next Monday, after games with Ohio State and Illinois, we could very well be 4-9 and have ensured yet another year where we won’t cross the .500 mark in B1G play. It will be Coach Carmody’s 14th season at the helm and at that point, he’ll have failed to ever cross the objective line of conference mediocrity. No coach in my lifetime has accomplished that “feat”.

I sat there on Saturday watching Wisconsin just knowing they would beat Michigan. When the Wolverines drained a 3-pointer with 2.4 seconds left, I wanted to see how the Kohl Center magic would play out. Of course, Ben Brust, hit a running 40-footer to send it to OT, where it was a foregone conclusion the Badgers would move to 11-0 vs Michigan in that building. I wondered if they had some type of conspiracy theory, a magnet in the basketball kind of thing, that enabled a seemingly Northwestern-like kind of talent level, that enabled Bo Ryan to win 92% of his home games. It is simply the most remarkable feat to me in college basketball’s current landscape. The permeation of “we WILL win” that hovers over a Badgers home game had me jealous. It had me longing for that feeling that we are just now getting used to in football (that is, going in to every game expecting to win). For a moment, I wondered if it was possible to considering switching my college basketball allegiance to ease my pain. I came to my senses and realized that in addition to being blasphemous, it is something that isn’t physically possible. I’ll always be a Wildcat basketball fan.

It then hit me that perhaps I should just let PRR write about hoops. He’s a young guy without the baggage of 20 years of “why us?” sentiment. Everything in life is relative, even mediocrity. The current ‘Cats senior class has 72 wins, just four shy of the alltime best set by John Shurna’s class (76 wins). While I don’t think we’ll get there this season, it is hard to rebuke the fact this is the most successful stint in modern NU basketball history. Perhaps a younger buck can take the fact that consecutive NIT appearances, while a potential building block, aren’t something that should be rationalized as having arrived anywhere, as we older timers tend to do. My thoughts have turned to loading LTP up with all kinds of football-related diversions to get our minds in a more positive place. Perhaps the losses have finally pushed me over the edge in to curmudgeon-ville. I want to mix it up. I want to be positive. I want to provide hope and fun and energy for this program. Yet, when you’re down to seven scholarship players and not only no post presence this year, but a woeful challenge in the paint for next year, it gets oppressive. Bring me back folks.

  • cebpd

    you said it great. But you know what part of the reason that you dont have optimism in the team? Because Carmody Doesn’t provide optimism. it really is shocking to think how fast teams like Iowa have come along in so short a time, meanwhile Carmody just doesn’t get it done. With Fitz, we see a team that believes in itself, that can win(and almost did) every game this year. With Carmody, it is the same problems, every year. rebounding. defense. no aggression by big men. With Fitz, we see different problem different years but they are addressed. we all thought NU would be a passing team? Boom, one of the best rushing teams in big ten. Defense bad against the run? A solid group. sure we had other problems, but it just is such a stark contrast of the two programs.

    The entire reason that our Football program is moving towards better facilities isbecause of Fitz. Carmody was just happy plodding aruond in an awful facility getting players that could compete well in the MAC, while the status quo remained the same.

    But I think JP has had enough of Carmody. The shot of optimism this program needs is a young, smart coach to turn around the program. the next Stevens, the next Shaka. until that happens, more of the same

    • Noah Kimmel

      Agreed Somewhat.

      I like Carmody, I think he is a brilliant coach who has done spectacular things. But he is not inspirational or motivational. He knows his X’s and O’s better than anyone, but doesn’t communicate an overall vision for the Cats.

      To attract better recruits, you need someone people really want to work hard for because they believe in the future, they have buy-in that a championship can and will happen. To get better facilities, he needs to fight for it. To sell season tickets, he needs to talk to the audience!

    • bd005

      So – where was Fitz’s leadership when the team fell apart after Persa went down (that was ONE player)?

      It took some time for the team to regroup after the loss of Crawford, but regroup they did.

      Unfortunately, they were hit w/ injuries to Hearn (which cost the Stanford game; also was sick for the UNL game) and then to Swop and Olah.
      This team is now down to ONE starter (and that’s not counting the loss of Cobb early on).

  • DR

    Jay, if you so choose make the call, don’t write on hoops anymore, to be honest I’ve stopped reading about the hoops team for this year. As a 1978 grad, and roomed with a starter for 2 years at a frat and 1 year in an apartment, this really hurts.

    And while I’ve been a strong supporter of Coach C, I now believe that he needs to be offered an Assistant AD role. We need new energy, no baggage, no dark clouds, we need a Fitz for hoops, and we need to find him now!

    • bd005

      How would the FB team have fared this season if they had not gone thru it relatively injury-free and instead had been riddled by injuries.

      Talk about short memories – remember what happened to the gridiron ‘Cats when Persa went down? That was ONE player.

      • DR

        I get the injury issues surrounding this year, but I was speaking to the general malaise that has surrounded this program for a long time. Goes back as far as Coach C having Kevin Coble , a major red flag that only got a shrug from the program, the athletic department and the school. Was it Coble? was it Carmody? I don’t know, nobody does, but it shouldn’t have happened. Other issues such as not being able to coach up a big man, or teach fundamentals like rebounding, free throw shooting, poor end of game decisions, lack of player development, lack of depth, refusal to develop a nine or ten man rotation (I know I know, it’s the injuries, at least last year or this). I like Coach C, he’s a nice guy, honorable guy. But it’s clear this is his last stop. Nobody is looking to hire him away from NU, which will become our mortal fear with Fitz in the next few years.

        Bottom line? Do you really think, even absent the injuries this year, Coach C can move this program to a point where they always make the tournament, and do so year in a year out.? That’s the new benchmark, and I just don’t feel it anymore with Coach C.

        And I’m willing to give up a few more years of mediocrity in exchange for a younger, more vibrant player’s coach. Coach C is wed to his system, and keeps hammering square pegs into his round holes.

        I feel bad about this change of heart, I really wanted Coach C to succeed, but I just don’t see it happening any more. Sorry.

        • Felis Silvestris

          We aren’t going to become a D-1 powerhouse under BC but the relative success he has had under his tenure is significant relative to the prior 25 years or so. There are fundamental handicaps that any basketball coach will currently have at NU (facilities, player admittance etc …). This precludes us from hiring the quality of coaches many bloggers here seem to think are available to us. While many of the negatives you list are at least somewhat true, I look back at the prior 20-30 years of Cat hoops and I’m thinking, “all those times 2 or 3.” That era was beyond frustrating. The teams for the most part weren’t even fun to watch. In my opinion BC’s teams have been entertaining. His system allows our teams to overachieve versus teams with admittedly superior athletes. I have three friends who are Univ of Illinois alums who prefer to watch NU basketball over U of I hoops. A little insight regarding Coble > an inside source close to the team told me that he was all about Kevin … not a team player whatsoever … and all his decisions were made for his selfish interests. Most “new era” coaches would have kissed his a__ to insure he didn’t leave the team. Personally I admire Carmody for taking a stand (being old school I suppose) and letting him know that the team comes before the individual.

  • Richard

    Same talent level?

    Has Northwestern ever had the quantity and quality of big men that Wisconsin always has?

    • http://twitter.com/LakeThePosts Lake The Posts

      No.

  • cece

    your pick me up is a two win LAX weekend in Cali! Go ‘Cats!!!!

    • http://twitter.com/LakeThePosts Lake The Posts

      Thanks!

      • cece

        ;-)

  • Felis Silvestris

    Sorry, but getting the next Stevens here is a huge pipe dream. It’s not going to happen. The NU basketball coaching job is considered one of the least desirable gigs around in upper level D-1. Coach K has considered it a dead end job.

    Also, I don’t get everyone’s overall negative opinion of this year’s team. I think they should be commended for being major overachievers. I’ve followed Cats basketball since the mid-1970′s and to be honest, this year’s team has been entertaining for the most part. We aren’t going to the Big Dance and without Swopshire, we won’t make the NIT, but I’ve seen many worse Cats teams to root for. With all the injuries etc … the talent isn’t there, but the effort has been and Carmody has done a terrific job of maxing out our team’s abilities. Due to the current roster status this team is doomed to inconsistency but the fact that they have had some of the success they have had is a minor miracle.

    Another major topic to consider when comparing hoops to football at NU is the fact that the Big Ten is far better at basketball. Hands down. Its evolved over the last few decades from a football conference to a basketball conference. Its more difficult for Northwestern to attract the top two to three players needed to turn its basketball program around than it is to corral a group of quality football players. As I noted in an earlier blog, a college basketball recruiter told me in the 1980′s that NU would improve far sooner in football than it would in basketball.
    Enough negativity regarding NU hoops … support them … Go Cats!

    • Mark

      But every team that changes coaches takes risks. I don’t think it’s a pipe dream to get a coach who would contend in the Big Ten and even nationally. Great conference, Midwest players capable of playing with anyone, Chicago, etc. The facilities are a problem. Look at Miami – Larranaga was at Bowling Green, James Madison, and then Miami. He has them competing nationally. And, no offense to him, he’s not a young guy.

      I remember when Duke was not good shortly before Coach K arrived. So, there’s no guarantee that a new coach would be better but the current situation is consistently second tier. If NU basketball had some seasons like Fitz has brought to football they’d be 11 – 7 in the conference (5 – 3 in football). The current coach hasn’t done anything near that.

      • uvahoocat

        coach L was at George Mason not jmu…but other than that I agree with the above

      • bd005

        Uhm, Duke made the NCAAs 3 times before Coach K arrived, including being runner-ups for the ’77-78 season.

        The Duke coach was none other than Bill Foster; look what he was able to do at NU (absolutely nothing).

        IIllinois had to resort to their 4th or 5th choice in Groce.

        And 5-3 in the conf. isn’t all that great when you miss dOSU and UW on the conf. schedule, esp. when the B1G has been down on FB (while in BB, it has probably never been tougher than over the past 3-4 years).

        • Felis Silvestris

          bd005 > Sounds like you have closely followed the Cats basketball program (including the painstaking coaching job searches etc …) for quite a long time. Glad to hear words of wisdom from an experienced and knowledgeable source.

        • Mark

          You’re right about Duke. Forgot about the Gminski, Banks, Spanarkel team. But 5 – 3 records twice in football still far exceeds the one season Carmody finished at .500 in 13 years. But you think the Cats should keep Carmody?

  • older cat

    I think to be categorized as a “brilliant” or “great” college BB coach you must finish higher than fifth in the B1G. Carmody placed fifth once in his 12 years coaching at NU. Everything else was lower in the second division. Not exactly great stuff and you can forget the NIT in an era where 64 teams go to the big dance.

  • PurpleBadger

    LTP–you want to be positive, but then write the most negative tripe out there. You should turn it over to someone else & post for the fire Carmody site. You seem way to sour to be objective. I am a Badger fan, first & foremost, with the Cats #2. I was at that Badger game. With, say, Berggren, out with injury, the Badgers lose that game. Period. They are not so deep that a key injury wouldn’t really set them back. People in the stands were not thinking this was a sure win, as you imply. The injury problem–what, it’s like so yesterday? No longer valid? The problem still is there, and would cripple any other team in the conference as well, save maybe Michigan or Indiana.

    • http://twitter.com/LakeThePosts Lake The Posts

      That was my point. This goes to @Felis Silvestris as well. I was admitting to being negative/sour/etc… and am not pinpointing on this injury-laden team, for all the reasons you mentioned. To me, I’ve hit the tipping point based on the 20+ years of banging my head against the fandom wall. Hence my want to turn it over to someone who can inject positive elements in to the conversation.

      • Pittsburgh Wildcat

        I think you were dead on, LTP. You and I are from basically the same era, and have basically arrived at the same conclusions. Very frustrating to have seen the MBB program get to the cusp, but (a) not be able to get over the hump and (b) seemingly not be able to take true advantage for longer-term competitive success.

  • alum dad

    Why do so many posters here accept NU basketball mediocrity? What has Bill Carmody done that makes him brilliant or a basketball genius? It doesn’t matter if he can coach if he never recruits players good enough to compete for a championship in the Big 10. How can a Big 10 team be satisfied with occasional NIT bids and no NCAA bids? Who cares what Coach K. says? We need someone who would rather make a name for themselves than sit on the bench as an assistant somewhere else waiting for his chance 5 or 10 years from now. if we expect mediocrity the mediocrity will continue. If we take a chance we might fail but we also might find the one to move us in a new direction.. Bill Carmody has had long enough. We know what we have and will get from him.

    • Pittsburgh WIldcat

      My personal opinion. In my case, it’s not that I accept mediocrity, it’s that I at least want to be respectful of what the program has achieved under Carmody compared to (a) what he inherited and (b) what pretty much every other head men’s hoops coach at NU has done over the last 5/6/7 decades.
      I literally had a front-row seat for Foster/Byrdsong/O’Neill eras, and trust me that outside of 2 seasons (the 2 NITs in the 1990s), the other years were not very enjoyable — except somehow the student section always seemed full for home Big Ten games (but I digress).
      I do agree 100% with your last sentence. If it truly is time for a change in head coaches, hopefully Jim Phillips will have his ducks in a row and do it right.

    • Felis Silvestris

      I don’t accept mediocrity and I’m far from a “company man”. In fact, I wanted Carmody’s four predecessors all to be replaced. Prior to Carmody the last quality coach here was Tex Winter. Even Winter struggled here with a Big Ten record of 25-61. Bill Foster arrived with a track record of having turned around several basketball programs. His Big Ten record was 13-113. Kevin “____” O’Neill was the second coming of the Great Recruiter. His Big Ten record was 9-39. Few people here know the facts behind the last several basketball coaching searches at NU. Do some research. You’ll discover that Tommy Amaker and many others turned down the job. Anyone that thinks coaches such as Stevens would have any interest at all in coming here are delusional. Does Carmody have his flaws? Absolutely. Will he ever will a Big Ten basketball title here? Highly unlikely. Has he been by far the most successful Cats basketball coach in the past 45 years? No question, YES. I’m intrigued that no one has commented on my statement above that Big Ten basketball is far more competitive than Big Ten football. And one couldn’t make that statement from 1970-2000, the thirty years prior to Carmody’s arrival in Evanston.

      • bd005

        And Amaker was SOOOOO successful at UM that he got fired.

        Imagine what he would do at NU w/ tighter academic requirements and the worst facilities by far in the B1G?

        (At Harvard, the school’s admin has given Amaker an advantage by loosening its academic reqs. and given him basically what are athletic scholarships w/ the financial aid program).

  • Pittsburgh WIldcat

    An attempt at an analogy: Carmody essentially is for our men’s hoops program what Randy Walker was for football.

    Hear me out.

    Think back to when Walker was hired. It was after the ’98 season — 2 years removed from the Citrus Bowl, 3 from the Rose Bowl and the football team had just gone 0-fer the Big Ten in 1998. The bloom was off the rose, so to speak, and Barnett left. Walker came in and restabilized the program and got it on a path for sustained success, even winning a 4-way share of the Big Ten, and certainly would have become our all-time winningest coach had tragedy not befallen him.

    Now flip to men’s hoops.
    O’Neill leaves in the fall of 2000, only a few days before practice starts! Once again, the bloom was off the rose. NU had been on the serious NCAA bubble in 1999 only to falter in February and come 1 game short of the tournament (note: if the field was 68 then, I bet we’d have played in Dayton on Tuesday). A year later (1999-2000 season), NU goes 0-fer the Big Ten and all sorts of players are coming and going. No stability anywhere in sight. Somehow, President Bienen gets his old Princeton buddy Carmody to come and be the new head coach. It takes a while, but greater stability now seems to exist and Carmody is not too far off from being NU’s all-time winningest MBB coach.

    I think we’ve all seen that discussions had already started to groom Fitz to be Walker’s successor; it just got implemented many years earlier than expected. Hopefully, Phillips has a similar transition plan in mind/in place to replace the veteran, respected sideline/bench coach Carmody with a young, energetic head coach who can build from there rather than a 100% total rebuild.

    • UVA Cat

      Except the 2000 Cats won the Big Ten in football and the Rose Bowl is a far cry from being on the bubble in men’s hoops. My point is that Walker inherited a program that had experienced some success at a high level. Same cannot be said for what Carmody inherited.

    • bd005

      Actually, it’s more analogous w/ the past 4 years w/ the FB team under Fitz – both programs making the postseason 4 times in a row.

      The diff. for the 5th year is that the FB team went thru the season pretty healthy, while the BB team has seen injury after injury after injury.

      It would have been a “lost season” for FB as well if they had been hit by the injury bug as well.

  • bandcat

    A guy like Stevens has the capability of becoming the next Wooden. He is not going to stay at Butler forever. Make him an offer he can’t refuse.

    • bd005

      Why would he come to NU when he had no interest in the Illinois job (same w/ Shaka)?

      • Will

        Exactly! There seems to be much ignorance regarding Stevens around here. The guy was born and raised in Indiana. Basketball in the hoosier state is like football in the SEC. It’s a religion.

        Now onto by Steven’s wont leave. Butler’s home court is THE Hinkle Fieldhouse. He’s beaten IU and taken Butler to 2 final fours at the age of 37. He’s paid well and is relevant in the mecca of CBB and lives a very short drive away from his hometown. Do the math. Why in the heck would he leave? Especially when we are talking about taking over what is perceived as one of the worst gigs in major D-1 hoops. Not happening.

        • Will

          In addition to acknowledging multiple typos, I would add that Butler is now a member of the A-10 (so are Shaka’s Rams). BU would also be considered a leading candidate for the new conference that will be created by the deflecting private universities of the Big East. The Bulldogs do not lack options.

          Again, no way Stevens leaves Butler for NU. Never in a million years.

      • bandcat

        1. Long term security for himself and family. 2. Fanbase thrilled with NCAA appearances let alone national championships. 3. Purdue and Indiana appear set with headcoaches. 4. Evanston /Chicago 3 hour car ride to see family in Circle City. 5. Recruits student athletes at Butler..can do same here. 6. Cerebral coach that would seem to be a great fit at NU. 7.This guy is a competitor who likes a challenge..is there a bigger one out there?

        • Felis Silvestris

          Zero chance a coach of Stevens’ stature would come here. Illinois (unfortunately) is considered a much more attractive destination than NU. I don’t think you’ve lived through five coaching searches like I have. Do some historical research regarding them … it will give you a much better perspective of the reality of NU basketball. In fact, a good chance if Carmody is fired you will be offered the job (if you want it). Perhaps submit your resume to JP.

          • bandcat

            Felis what were the odds that a South Side Irish Catholic would go on to become what he has at Northwestern. Fitz could and will be used to recruit the next mens basketball coach. Like it says in our gym It is better to try and fail than to never try at all. Gotta believe our administration feels that way. Zero chance…I like 10 to 1.. P.S. sorry for your pain. at least the Carmody years have given rise to HOPE..Go Cats!

  • CatFanSeattle

    In the Bill Carmody era the team has:

    - Never been to the NCAA tournament
    - Never been to the semi’s of the B1G tournament
    - Never finished above .500 in the B1G (1 year @ .500)

    Yes, he inherited a train wreck. Yes, there have been significant injuries this year. BUT. Isn’t 12+ years long enough to achieve at least one of those things? Did anyone believe going into this season (pre-injuries) that this team was a stone cold lock to achieve any of those things or did we just “hope” it would happen?

    We now have ample evidence on the ceiling of BC: a team that will win a few upsets and has “hope” of making the NCAA. The program is in a better place now then when he arrived. He was a good hire. Now the question has become is the current level of performance acceptable or should a change be made in an attempt to move forward.

    • bd005

      And in the BC era, the BB program won a post-season game (actually a no. of post-season games) before the FB team and won several early season tournaments.

  • ctya

    The best way to avoid getting depressed about Northwestern basketball is to stop following it until there’s a new coach.

  • PB Cat

    I don’t think we will see a change after this season. You have to understand that after 14 years Carmody deserves a soft landing when it comes. I believe he gets another year because of the injuries, which are not his fault obviously and he has two strong players coming back from injuries, a good group of returning players from those uninjured this year, and a apparent outstanding incoming guard.
    I’m honestly neutral on Carmody. He is a poor recruiter but a very good coach and in my opinion has done a very good job this year with the situation he has had to coach in.
    In my mind Phillips says look get us to the NCAA’s next year or we give you a soft landing and if we don’t make the tournament we are announcing a search for your successor.
    You know if let him go now, Crawford leaves on one of those fifth year deals, Sina wants out of his commitment and a couple of other guys leave although that wouldn’t be to bad.

    • Alum Dad

      The longer we keep Bill Carmody the longer we are postponing an NU hoops turnaround. I don’t understand your thoughts on a “soft landing”. Bill Carmody has had a long run and been paid very well for his efforts. Give him a pat on the back and send him on his way with a gold and purple watch. It is well past time to change horses. I don’t care if he has been better than his predecessors. That is like bragging about being the tallest munchkin in Oz. We should be looking to the future not the past. I still think Chris Collins would be an interesting possibility.

      • Felis Silvestris

        Chris Collins works for the same man that Tommy Amaker did. I’m not necessarily advocating the conclusion of the article shown below, but it is factual in regards to Amaker’s (and many other candidates over the years) interview with NU regarding their head coaching job. I doubt you have lived through as many basketball head coaching job searches as I have. Just like I tell my teenagers, experience has its benefits.
        http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/01/11/bernstein-northwestern-should-just-play-ball/

      • PB Cat

        Alum, I’m not exactly sure what I meant but generally speaking, I would let it be known in advance that this is the last year win or lose, and offer him a job in the athletic department, and publicize it so he doesn’t have to look at some headline that says “Carmody out at NU” or something similar.

    • bd005

      What coach at NU would be a “good” recruiter?

      Unless Calipari (yuck) decided to come to NU, not going to happen (and even then, he wouldn’t be able to recruit a lot of the players he currently does since most wouldn’t be able to get past admissions).

      Improvements in recruiting will be and is incremental.

      The 4 back-to-back NITs have led some recruits to think that they can at least win at NU and have a shot at NCAAs.

      Not much diff. from FB – it has been the 4 back-to-back bowl appearances which has gradually improved recruiting.

  • Will

    I’ve enjoyed watching the ‘Cats this year. The games aren’t particularly pretty, but BC has got these kids playing their hearts out. Think about what would happen to Mich, Indy, Wisc, Minny or MSU if they were down 4 (!) projected starters? Yeah, it be messy.

    I strongly disagree with LTP’s “if this squad were 100%, they would be a bubble team at best”. I believe they would be a bubble team at WORST. We were 4-6 in conference and within two points of Iowa when Swop went down. At 100% we take Iowa and Nebraska at minimum (maybe IU-not included in total; were down 5 late in the 2nd half) as well as UIC and Stanford non-conference (maybe Butler too-not included; were down 5 late in that one too). That’s 17-8 (6-5). Bubble at worst with several winnable games left on the schedule.

    With Crawford and Cobb coming back and Sobo, Olah, Demps and Kale getting valuable minutes, the future looks bright. Add in Lumpkin (who many thought was the most ready of the frosh) and the highly regarded Sina, I find really difficult not to be optimistic for what many think might be BC’s last shot to get NU to the dance.

    • PurpleBadger

      Will–a very well thought out piece. I agree totally!

    • bd005

      WIth Cobb, Crawford, Lumpkin and a healthy Cerina (needs his big body), this ‘Cats team would have had a good shot at the NCAAs (better than last year’s team).

      Already beat Baylor, UI and Minny and would have beaten Stanford, UIC, UNL and maybe Butler.

      Would have also split w/ Iowa.