Purple Mafia Profiles: Andrew Bagnato

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Bowl season is in the air and we are still wondering how bowl games pick and view Northwestern. So our good friend Brett Kurland caught up with Northwestern alumnus and Chief of Communications for the Fiesta Bowl and Insight Bowl, Andrew Bagnato, to help us decipher the bowl picture a bit.

Today is a pretty busy day. We have the Big Ten Championship Game (and the accompanying live chat right here at 8 p.m.!), we have preparing for Northwestern’s big basketball battle with No. 7/8 Baylor on Sunday and, of course, we have the bowl announcement coming Sunday. The Wildcats could end up anywhere from Houston to Detroit to San Francisco to just about anywhere.

Seemed like a good time to catch up with an influential Northwestern alumnus. So our friend, Brett Kurland caught up with Northwestern alumnus and Chief of Communications for the Fiesta Bowl and Insight Bowl, Andrew Bagnato, to help us decipher the bowl picture just a little bit. Take it away, Brett…

It’s bowl announcement eve, and with Northwestern fans pondering the Wildcats’ bowl fate, we thought this would be a good time to catch up with the Chief of Communications for the Fiesta Bowl and Insight Bowl, Andrew Bagnato, Northwestern Class of 1985.  (For those of you who know your Northwestern football timeline, you’ll realize that means Bagnato was on campus for the back end of the infamous 34-game losing streak.)  Andrew had previously spent many years on the college football beat, working as the national college football writer for the Chicago Tribune.  So, this is a guy knows his pigskin.

Lake The Posts talked to Andrew about a number of things as he draws back the curtain on the bowl selection process, shares what it’s been like working at the Fiesta Bowl as the organization was rocked by scandal (he came on board after all of the alleged improprieties took place), and reflects on his role in LTP’s namesake activity.

The questions and answers below are just a few of the topics we discussed.  The complete interview, which includes Andrew addressing some of the most frequent criticisms of the BCS, his thoughts on the “Persa Strong” Heisman campaign, and the one explosive change he’s seen come to college football, will be available in Lake The Posts’ inaugural podcast (note: the download may not work if you are using Google Chrome as your Web browser).

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BK: You were the national college football writer for the Chicago Tribune while Pat Fitzgerald was winning two National Defensive Player of the Year awards and leading the Wildcats to the Rose Bowl and Citrus Bowl.  Talk about the job Fitz has done over these last several years as the team’s head coach.

Pat FitzgeraldAB: I’ve met him on several occasions.  Very impressed.  I think any Northwestern alum would be proud to have him leading the program.  He’s somebody who obviously was there at the start of all of this as a football player, and really a great football player.  But someone who really also understands the mission of Northwestern, which I think does matter. As an alum, I really think it’s important for every facet of the university to really embrace what Northwestern is all about, whether it’s athletics, or the economics department, or the journalism school.  And he lives the ideal.  He lives it and believes in it.

I think you can make an argument that Northwestern took a chance on Fitz when he was a player, because he was probably undersized for his position.  I remember that he was trying to walk on at other places.  I think he was a guy that Northwestern gave him a chance.  He embraced it, made the best of it.  Isn’t that what we want from pretty much anybody who goes to school there?  And I just think to have someone like that… He’s walked the walk.  When he tells players, he stresses academics and work ethic and all that sort of stuff, he’s actually done it himself.

I just feel like the program is in a really great place.  They’ve done some interesting things marketing-wise around him.  We’ve seen the way they’ve used him as an asset for the program, to promote it.  And that’s a tough market to promote in because it’s so pro sports centric.  So he’s really an invaluable asset to them.

BK: Looking at Northwestern’s bowl prospects… I know that it looks like they are not coming to either of your games this year, but what is the appeal of Northwestern for a bowl?  How would you evaluate the Wildcats as a bowl candidate?

AB: I remember from the Rose Bowl, part of the appeal was Cindy Crawford showing up at Disneyland with the team, having attended Northwestern herself. (laughs)

I think it’s a fan base that, while it’s relatively small compared to the people it competes against, is relatively affluent.  Also, it’s a very powerful fan base in the sense that a lot of their alums are people who you want coming to visit your community because maybe they’ll move their companies here.

And I think, and we see this with Stanford now, I think there’s a lot of people out there who kind of root for schools like Northwestern and Stanford.  They might not have anything to do with them in any way, but I think they like to think that these schools are special academically, maybe and somehow that can translate to people wanting that team to do well.  Maybe that’s not true at all, but I have that sense.

Also, with Northwestern, let’s face it, they haven’t had a lot of bowl history.  So I don’t think Northwestern fans are real tired of going anywhere.  They’ve supported that team really well.  We kind of had them on the Insight Bowl radar last year, in mid-season, and I was getting a lot of questions around the office about “What do you think Northwestern would do?  Would they turn out?  Would they be excited to come here?” And I said, “I think they’d be very excited to come here.  We have a strong alumni association in the Phoenix area, and I think there’d be a lot of people who’d like to get out of Chicago for a few days in the winter time.”

So I think the perception of the bowls, not speaking for anybody else, but I know for us, we see them as a really attractive team.

BK: There’s a lot of chatter that goes on about the bowls and bowl selection.  What do you feel is the biggest misconception about the bowl selection process?

AB: I think the biggest misconception is that all the bowls care about is selling tickets and filling hotel rooms.

We have a luxury here in Phoenix that we have a wonderful destination, so we have a lot to sell.  We can assume that most teams if they are invited to our games are going to want to come to our games because of where it is, and hopefully because of the kind of games that we put on.  So, maybe I’m speaking from a position of advantage there.  But I think that is a misconception that bowl matchups are solely driven by how many tickets are they gonna sell, how many eyes are going to be glued to the television.  I think there are a number of bowls that are also interested in the matchup itself.  “Is this matchup that we’re putting together one that’s interesting?  Is it one that’ll set us apart in some way?” Those things, a lot of times, don’t have anything to do with tickets or hotel rooms.

Economics are a factor for everyone, but there are some other things that go on in those discussions that are going on right now.  I think one thing people don’t realize is “how often has a team been in your bowl?”  We’ve had numerous teams that have been in a market three/four times in a five year period.  They may be a great program, but maybe they don’t want to come back and maybe it’s better for the bowl if they took somebody else that year.  So even though they might be a great program, you might say, “Is there a different way to do it?”

There’s just a lot of different factors that go into the decisions.

BK: What’s your favorite Northwestern football memory?

AB: Well, since this is for Lake The Posts… I believe Minnesota was the game that Northwestern won to break the conference losing streak, if I’m not mistaken, midseason 1982, my sophomore year.  I believe this was also the game that we tore down the goal posts, “we” being a lot of people.  I remember them carrying the goal posts up the south stands and dropping them onto Central Avenue.  A bunch of people went around the other side, took the goal posts down Central, stopped in front of the president’s house (I don’t remember what was said), and then marched them down to the beach, and threw them in the lake.  I remember getting into the water, and feeling like, “it’s getting a little deep,” and kind of looking back and there weren’t as many people now carrying the goal post, because it was a pretty chilly day.  The funny thing was, I didn’t go to really all that many Northwestern football games as a student and that was one that I did and I remember being a part of that whole bunch.  I hope I have the right game, but I think that was the game that that happened. [Ed. Note: Northwestern did in fact break their 38-game Big Ten losing streak against Minnesota, on October 18, 1982.  And goalposts were indeed deposited in Lake Michigan after that victory. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1126020/index.htm).]

And then the other memory I have is covering the [1996 Rose Bowl] in Pasadena, there was a moment a couple of hours before the game up in the press box that somebody said “OK, in the back of the press box, we’re going to get all of the Northwestern alums together for a team photo.”  We could barely fit everyone in the entryway to the Rose Bowl press box.  That was a really neat moment too.

Check back later today for the complete podcast of this interview.  Also, you can follow Andrew Bagnato on Twitter @andrewbagnato.

18 Responses to Purple Mafia Profiles: Andrew Bagnato

  1. PBR Cat says:

    Mike Dumke of “The Chicago Reader” has shared his thoughts on the B1G title game in Indianapolis and on the likelihood of the Wildcats appearing in Detroit this bowl season.

    http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2011/12/02/give-me-detroit-in-december-damnit#more

    Dumke makes an interesting point about how Michigan State humiliated Northwestern during his student days. Losing by a score of 31-17 does not seem so bad in comparison.

  2. Gary68 says:

    Very nice article, and I’m looking forward to the rest of the interview. I was also at the game where we broke the losing streak, tore down the goal posts, and walked them down Central Avenue to the lake. I was years out of school with a friend not from NU, so we didn’t follow to the lake. However I thought that game was against Northern Illinois. Am I wrong? Or was there more than one occasion of LCP?
    We’re in town this week and will be at the big game tomorrow! Go ‘Cats!

    • Ron says:

      The overall streak was broken vs NIU, and the Big Ten streak ended vs Minnesota. And yes, for awhile there, the posts went to the Lake after every win. Got sorta comical in a weird way…

    • Peter Skillz says:

      Yes, we beat NIU to break the overall 34 game losing streak. The victory over Minnesota was to break the conference losing streak. The posts have been laked on multiple occasions. I believe the last occurrence was after a victory over Illinois in 1991.

  3. MTXEMurph says:

    From PRR on Twitter:
    LTP is in Indianapolis and spoke with a reliable source who says the Meineke Car Care Bowl in Houston is eying a Northwestern-Iowa State matchup. Very interesting.

    • Richard says:

      The Houston Bowl would take 6-6 ISU over 2 of 10-2 KSU, Mizzou, Texas, or TAMU? Seems a bit unlikely. Even if they prefer ISU over Mizzou, they’d prefer ISU over TAMU (even without a coach)? Rather hard to believe, unless the B12 office is really leaning on the bowls to not take schools that are leaving that conference.

    • Richard says:

      Plus, the Houston Bowl only takes NU if Michigan makes a BCS bowl, and they’re skipping over PU, Illinois, and PSU (can’t see them skipping over tOSU).

  4. shurna the destroyer says:

    PLEASE NOT DETROIT…LTP HELP!!

  5. wildcat6 says:

    Andrew is correct. We broke the Big Ten losing streak (different from the overall losing streak, which we broke with the 31-6 win over Northern Illinois in 1982) against Minnesota, 31-21. Minnesota came into the game ranked, with Mike Hohensee at quarterback, and the Gophers jumped out to a 21-3 lead in the second quarter. As Andrew recalled, it was a very soggy day, and my friend and I were considering bailing on the game. However, Northwestern blocked a punt near the end of the first half, and scored a TD to pull within 21-10. The ‘Cats went on to score 3 more TDs in the second half – with the help of heroics by Sandy Schwab, Ricky Edwards and Steve Tasker, among others, to pile it on the Gophers.

    As Andrew remembered, we did dump the south goalpost over the end zone stands, then some of us paraded them to Bob Strotz’s house, where he gave a brief speech. Then, onto the lake! I didn’t get in the water, but did help dump the posts into Lake Michigan. What a memory!

    • Wildcat Fan says:

      Yes, that was my senior year. I went to every game all 4 years, except the first game my freshman year when I was moving into Allison Hall, which is the last game we won. It was an unbelieveable senior year. Not only did we beat Northern Illinois to break the losing streak but the win against Minnesota was amazing. Yes, every victory meant taking the goal posts to Strotz’s house and then to the lake. For Pumpkin Prom, the all campus Halloween party at Norris, people dressed up as the goal posts and others as the scoreboard, 31-21. Then we beat Michigan State at Michigan State to break our away game losing streak. They promptly fired their coach. To top it off, we beat Notre Dame on St. Patrick’s Day in the NIT that winter. (I think we could have been in the NCAA tournament that year if it had been 64 teams.)

      • NUmanager says:

        I’m fascinated by the idea of fans stopping with the posts and giving a speech. What kind of speech exactly took place? Angry, jubilant, what? Grievances were aired?

        If only there was at least some cell phone video.

        • wildcat6 says:

          We didn’t hear much of what Strotz had to say. He looked like he’d just come out of a Wine and Cheese inside his house, smiling and congenial. He didn’t say much. He said a few friendly words and waved to us, then went back into his house. He wasn’t PO’d that we’d taken apart the goalposts, that’s for sure.

  6. CatInTheHat says:

    UGA wins, we avoid Detroit, correct? Houston would be mighty nice…

  7. Richard says:

    Not necessarily. First, an LSU win may not drop Georgia enough, and the B10 title game loser may not drop enough to get Michigan up to #14. Even if Michigan goes to a BCS Bowl, the Houston Bowl would have to pick NU over PU, Illinois, and PSU.

  8. CatInTheHat says:

    Yeah but Detroit also means no bowl trip or even viewing of the first half for those of us working that week. Interesting scenarios, anyway.

  9. Gary68 says:

    It looks like it was done more than once, but the win against Northern Illinois was the first Lake the Post.
    “Northwestern set a then-NCAA Division I record of 29 consecutive losses on 11/7/1981 in a 61-0 loss to Michigan State. Fans had worn “Stop State at 28″ pins to the game, and when the game was over, the fans (mostly students) tore down the goal posts and carried them out of the stadium and headed east down Central Street to the shores of Lake Michigan, where they dumped the goal posts in the lake. Northwestern extended that record to 34 consecutive losses before beating Northern Illinois University 31-6 on 9/25/1982.” http://www.nu1982.org/memories/Football/

  10. Gary68 says:

    grrrr. sorry, I misread the above, which refers to an LTP in a loss to Michigan State.

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