Kenosha Double Dip Plus Facility Dreaming

IU Memorial North Endzone Low 2012

Man, coverage has come a long way in the five years we’ve been doing this. Hats off to both PurpleWildcats.com’s Chris Emma and WildcatReport.com’s Louie Vaccher who both have been covering the ‘Cats like a blanket this preseason. As most of you know, my day job precludes me from getting to do much in person coverage during the preseason and therefore I rely on Chris, Louie and others like Teddy Greenstein, and the ESPN.com coverage team to paint a clear picture of what is going on with the ‘Cats.

Here are some highlights of yesterday’s coverage from a cool, overcast day at UW-Parkside:

  • Venric Mark is quickly emerging as the ‘Cats primary RB in camp and has been very impressive. Mike Trumpy is looking solid and gaining confidence after taking hits and testing that knee in live hitting. Trumpy turned heads with a great TD run in the night session. Chris Emma notes he appears to have the “wheels” of someone who you’d never know was injured a year ago.
  • Jack Konopka is emerging as a real option to start on the OL after converting from Superback this off-season. He’s currently battling for the RT slot.
  • Louie Vaccher was stunned by the size of freshman DB Traveon Henry and can’t remember a guy with that kind of size and presence in our secondary.
  • Chris Emma was impressed by freshman DE Dean Lowry who he says might get some PT this year. Emma also noted that track star Joseph Jones, who was recruited as a DB is playing LB.
  • Louie Vaccher posted a feature on RS freshman CB Nick VanHoose, who appears to have the lead on locking down one starting CB position. VanHoose was THIS close to having his redshirt burned by Fitz late last year, but now we may be in line for some stability at one corner for several years.
  • Davion Fleming started alongside Ibraheim Campbell at safety.
  • Pierre Youngblood-Ary hauled in the play of the day with a catch over the back of the helmet of defender Daniel Jones.
  • Kyle Prater was held out of practice and reportedly is dinged up while RB Malin Jones was also not in action.

BTN Time!

It’s that time of year again. Dave Revsine, Gerry Dinardo and Howard Griffith are all on site in Kenosha this morning to tape the Northwestern fall camp show. The BTN crew has been busing all over the midwest on their annual tour. It’s must-see stuff as they go very in-depth and surprisingly offer candid insights in to the strengths and weaknesses of each unit. The show will air TOMORROW night at 10 pm et/9 pm ct on BTN.

FACILITY DREAMIN’

On to our regularly scheduled post. I had the fortune of traveling to Bloomington, Indiana recently for a business meeting and of course made sure to check out Memorial Stadium while I was there. I’ve been down this road a couple of times before, but I thought my firsthand experience of being inside the renovated Hoosier stadium was as relevant as ever as ‘Cats fans await the public unveiling of the facilities plan.

Let’s start with some assumptions. There have been various reports of the expected dollar amount to be raised for NU Athletics. Most reports, including the most recent by Teddy Greenstein, put the total at $200MM- $300MM.  While this will be, by far, the largest capital investment in to NU Athletics in school history, I was a little surprised at how low the number was. Well, let me restate that. Once I heard, like you did, that a key part of the plan was a “Monday through Friday” practice facility complex AND that the invesment would touch all 19 sports, I quickly deduced that there would be no new football stadium.  Let’s consider a few football stadium measuring sticks:

  • Minnesota’s TCF Bank Stadium, completed for the 2010 season, cost $289MM to build.  To me, a very relevant number for a brand new stadium.
  • Michigan, by contrast, spent $226MM to put in 83 luxury boxes and 3,200 club seats, a number that still blows me away.
  • Buoyed by the new Pac12 Network deal several left coast schools are priming the construction market. Washington is doing a $250MM overhaul to the existing stadium, Arizona is putting $72MM in to stadium improvements and Cal is laying out $470MM for a complete stadium renovation and practice facilities.

Let’s assume that a good chunk of the $200MM-$300MM (let’s call it $300MM) will go towards the practice facility solution. That doesn’t leave enough to do a complete new basketball arena AND significant improvements, does it? Well, now you see where my mind goes – realistic relevance. Enter Indiana.

The Hoosiers renovated one major portion of Memorial Stadium as part of a $55MM facilities upgrade. The football-specific portion of the overhaul was likely in the $40MM-$45MM range from what I’ve been able to tell. It was a three year project, started in 2006, that added athletic offices, a spectacular weight room, club seats and a closed-in portion of the stadium that is just fantastic in person. Simply put, it converted what looked like a glorified high school stadium in to a venue that feels much bigger time.

Like most things, the devil is in the details. When you approach Memorial Stadium from the outside, particularly as you walk towards the north endzone, you start to appreciate the work. The exterior feels right in line with the architecture throughout the campus. Gray concrete, beautiful arches and a timelessness and class type of feel come to mind. When you walk inside it is brand spanking new. The offices are sparkling. There is an events room and Hall of Fame-like experience on the fourth floor with wide open ceilings. You look out on to the field and the new $3MM scoreboard stares at you like an oversized flatscreen.  Granted, I’d love to see the south endzone closed, as the scoreboard area looks like an ACC stadium with trees and traffic passing by, but I’m sure that would be the next step should they ever fill the place consistently. The football offices and conference rooms are very consistent – colored with mostly Hoosier crimson. And this is just on the inside.

Wouldn't this look great with NU from Central Street?

When you are out in the seats your eyes are drawn to this north endzone.  I sat there imagining the Ryan Field south endzone to be just like this. Pull the seating in to be right on top of the field and use the space to build this awesome enclosure. I think one of the most dynamic elements of it all is the weight room. The design is actually very similar to Illinois’ Memorial Stadium. From the outside, the glass is covered with a seemingly opaque graphic of Indiana Hoosiers. However, you walk through the door and a weight room that must be four times the size of Northwestern’s awaits. As you work out there, you can see the field at ground level. It would be fun to have an event here during a game as it is such a unique view. The entire time I walked through this stadium I couldn’t believe it only cost $40MM-$50MM. 

A view from the IU weight room that is about 4-6 times the size of NU's.

The concourses are wide and the entrances have been pulled out away from where they used to be. The same gray, stone arch-theme prevails as a very strong entrance for fans. Imagine if wrought iron fence was all the way out where the start of the East lot is now. Imagine every 15 yards or so there was a stone arch entrance easily signaling “get in line here”.  The amount of concourse space that would be opened up could go a long way to addressing the laughable congestion at bathrooms and concession stands.

One neat element I had never noticed before was the academic center, It is tucked inside the stadium, between two concession stands at about the 50-yard line. It’s glass exterior makes it almost look like a fishbowl so you can look in and be impressed by the offering, almost as if to say “we take academics seriously”.  Considering the proximity to the weight room, the facilities and everything else, it’s a pretty ingenious use of what otherwise would be “dead space”.

It will be interesting to see what they do for Ryan Field.  You can count on a new state-of-the-art scoreboard. You can bet the south endzone will be addressed. The northeast corner, where the stands are angled the wrong way is another no-brainer opportunity. But what about the north endzone? What about the adjacent Welsh-Ryan? Will we go Boston College like and connect the two facilities, making the in-between area, offices, weight rooms and the like? Will football offices and weight rooms be part of a south endzone design?

Time will tell, but if we’re talking about having tens of millions to address the football stadium then Indiana is a model worth looking at.

Ebert NFL Update

Jeremy Ebert is taking reps as a punt returner and learning that even for a first team All Big Ten WR, that the journey to making an NFL roster, check that, a world class team like the Patriots, is no gimme. Take a look here at the ESPNBoston feature on Jeremy.

Road Trip!

Our LTP gal pal Gia D. has been very busy with Northwestern trips this fall. Now, the VP of the NU Club of Chicago is announcing the very first roadtrip for the club to the Big House!

Join the Northwestern Alumni Club of Chicago for our first ever away game bus trip to the Northwestern vs. Michigan game at the Big House!

This event goes on sale to all alumni TODAY and tickets must be purchased no later than August 31, 2012!

Register by clicking HERE!:

On November 10th, board a charter bus to Ann Arbor for a day trip to see the Wildcats play at one of the most iconic stadiums in all of college football.  We will have seats in the Northwestern alumni section at this game, which is a sure sell-out, and you can leave the driving to us as you enjoy a comfortable ride, snacks, drinks, and the chance to relax, sleep, and socialize with other fans!

The ticket price is $130 and includes your game ticket, transportation, a Northwestern hat, snacks and drinks on the bus, and a possible informal tailgate at Michigan, depending on when game time is and how early we arrive.

The bus will depart from Union Station no later than 5 hours before game time, which will be announced closer to then.

LTP Ticket Challenge

You knew coming off of that announcement I just had to remind you to get those NEW season tickets so we can put them on the board! We’re looking for someone to officially push us past the 50% mark of 100 on our quest to 200 NEW season tickets. Nebraska is sold out and Iowa is getting closer to a sellout, so the only way to ensure you can see these games as well as great other options including a night game against rising SEC player Vandy and a late afternoon September tilt with BC is to hop on board! Call 1-888-Go-Purple and order today! Email us at laketheposts@gmail.com with your story and we’ll give you a shout-out!

Pub Crawl!

Let’s keep the LTP Bar Venue locales pouring in (geesh, that’s really bad). I’ve heard from Portland, several mid-Atlantic states, Chicago and San Francisco, but we want to make sure we have the most accurate and up-to-date places for fans spread across the country to be able to congregate and watch with fellow ‘Cats fans! With the season opener only two weeks away from Saturday and two evening games on tap in September, let’s nail this down! Email us at laketheposts@gmail.com .

  • Steve Z

    i think we won’t here any facilities announcement until after the season is over.
    thanks for the break down of costs – until reading this i assumed 300MM would be plenty for major overhauls in addition to the practice facility

    • VaWildcat

      Maybe, but the Trustees meet in September and are due to announce a major capital campaign in connection with new Strategic Plan, so the facilities plan could come sooner than the end of the season.

      • Steve Z

        that would be great.

  • Estif

    Really appreciate the info and perspective you gained from your trip.

  • Virginia Cat

    I agree that $300M is low. I think the number has to be in the $500-750M range for improvements to be significant enough. This includes improved recreational facilities for the entire student body. NU just hasn’t invested in this area over the years like other great academic schools, so they are further behind the 8 ball to begin with.

    • Virginia Cat

      PS – I think I recall that when Tech got gutted and rebuilt, the figure to redo that building was around $1 Billion. Does anyone else remember about what tech cost to rebuild and refurbish? I thought it was in this range…

    • Scott

      Even given that NU has the advantages over the state-run projects listed to ostensibly avoid prevailing wage mandates and the concomitant no-show jobs? Not an expert, but I have been exposed to this in my career … can anyone judge what the value of that is worth … perhaps I am over-emphasizing, or maybe the reality is, they can’t avoid these issues regardless of private status.

  • Zanycat

    When I get bored at lunch, I work on dummy redesigns for Ryan Field in ProEngineer. I’ve worked on a number over the years using a seating chart and Google maps to get everything roughly to scale. Some of the mods are outlandish and others more realistic. When I started, I used the renos at Ohio State and Indiana as inspiration. I like how they shelled the original ‘Shoe and think that could be done at Ryan to provide wider concourses and second deck open air concourses with new concessions and facilities. Indiana’s reno with offices and training facilities in the end zones is also great and could be done on both the south and north of Ryan. I don’t know how high Evanston will let them build though as a huge stadium could become an eyesore for the townies. Other concepts are based on features from the new Meadowlands Stadium and new Yankee Stadium. The last few with grey models of McGaw and Welsh-Ryan, are what I’d really like to see. Mirror the west stand architecture and close the field for a louder game day experience. Link below…

    https://picasaweb.google.com/100955678524402632348/NewRyanField?authuser=0&feat=directlink

  • skepticat

    Found an interesting in-depth look of Indiana’s renovations over at Crimson Quarry:
    http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2009/8/4/977686/a-close-up-look-at-ius-expanded

    One thing to note, they only added about 1500 new seats; it was mostly an upgrade of facilities rather than expansion of seating. I would imagine anything done to Ryan Field would be the same, especially since we can’t fill our stadium as it is.

    Also stumbled across a profile of Ryan Field’s sound system upgrade after the 1996 season:
    http://www.audiosystemsgroup.com/ryan.htm

    Of note: “the stadium is in the middle
    of a residential neighborhood, so minimizing intrusion of the sound
    system into the neighborhood was critical.” Just another ever-present reminder that anything the university tries to do will likely be shackled by the city. Extremely frustrating.

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